Ccedil;yämasundara: Jujitsu.

Devotee: Judo.

Prabhupä da: Yuyutsavaù, it is called yuyutsavaù. So yuyutsavaù means when two parties are fighting, they are called yuyutsavaù, " Desiring to fight, they prepared." So actually these two groups of brothers, cousin brothers, they assembled there for fighting to decide their fate. So everything is clear. Dharma-kñ etre kuru-kñ etre samavetä [Bg. 1.1], assembled, yuyutsavaù, for fighting. And who are they? It is the question of Dhå tarä ñ ö ra, the father of the Duryodhana, and he is asking his private secretary, Saï jaya. Saï jaya was relaying the fight in the battlefield, and Dhå tarä ñ ö ra was blind. Just like television. So he was seeing the fight from the heart. It means there is still more finer science, that you don't require machine to see it by television, what is going outside. You can see within your heart. So this Saï jaya was seeing the battle, and he was relaying to Dhå tarä ñ ö ra.

So point is that every word of Bhagavad-gé tä, that is fact, historical, and very nicely composed and spoken by the greatest authority, Kå ñ ë a, who is accepted by all parties as the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

(Town Hall Lecture Auckland, April 14, 1972)

John Lennon: I've read bits of the Bhagavad-gé tä. I don't know which version it was. There's so many different translations.

Prabhupä da: There are different translations. Therefore I have given this edition, Bhagavad-gé tä As It Is. There are interpretations. In many translations they have got interpretations. Not only in other parts of the world, but in our own country also. Just like Mahatma Gandhi. He was a great man. He has also interpreted. But the point is interpretation where required. Now, here is a fountain pen box. Everyone knows this is a fountain pen box. But if I say, " No, this is something else." That is my interpretation. Is that very nice thing? (Chuckling) Similarly, interpretation is required when things are not understood clearly. If everybody can understand this box is a fountain pen box, where is the necessity of interpretation? This is the first thing. So Bhagavad-gé tä is so clear. It is just like sunlight. Sunlight does not require any other lamp. For example, I'll give you, in the first verse,

dharma-kñ etre kuru-kñ etre

samavetä yuyutsavaù

mä makä ù pä ë ò avä ç caiva

kim akurvata saï jaya

[Bg. 1.1]

The, dhå tarä ñ ö ra uvä ca. The father of Duryodhana is asking his secretary, Saï jaya. His secretary's name was Saï jaya. " Saï jaya, my boys..." Mä makaù. Mä makaù means " my sons, " and pä ë ò ava, " the sons of my younger brother." His younger brother's name was Pä ë ò u, and therefore his sons are known as Pä ë ò ava. So mamaka, pä ë ò ava. " My sons and my younger brother's sons, they assembled together for fighting." Yuyutsava. Yuyutsava means " with fighting spirit." And dharma-kñ etre kuru-kñ etre [Bg. 1.1], on the place known as Kurukñ etra, which is a place of pilgrimage, dharma-kñ etra. Kim akurvata: " After assembling there, what did they do? " That was his question. Now, this Kurukñ etra place is still existing in India. You have been in India? No.

Room Conversation

(With John Lennon, Yoko Ono, and George Harrison September 11, 1969, London, At Tittenhurst)

Prabhupä da: No, no, they are not even expert of material science. They are expert in bluffing others things with jugglery of words. That's it.

Svarü pa Dä modara: No, they're saying that it was not done before, like telephones and these airplanes and these new discoveries.

Prabhupä da: Well, there were better telephones. You do not know it. Just like Saï jaya is sitting with his master, Dhå tarä ñ ö ra, and he's relaying all the war affairs going on. He asked, kim akurvata saï jaya: [Bg. 1.1] " What did they do? " But he was sitting in the room. Where is your that telephone? It is television within the heart. He is seeing everything and relay. Bhagavad-gé tä, don't you see? Saï jaya uvä ca, dhå tarä ñ ö ra uvä ca. Dhå tarä ñ ö ra inquired, " Now, after meeting my sons and nephews, what they are doing? " And he's relaying, " Now Duryodhana is going to see Droë ä cä rya. Droë ä cä rya says like this. Bhé ñ madeva says..." How does he see within the room? But you know that science?

(Morning Walk December 7, 1973, Los Angeles)

Indian Man (1): Why there is a fight? Because both the things, both the lawyers, they take it in different way and so they come to the judge.

Prabhupä da: That's right. But it is not different in such a way that you call a spectacle a something else.

Indian Man (4): Bhagavad-gé tä is really...

Prabhupä da: Yes, but it said in the Bhagavad-gé tä clearly, it is said clearly, imaà vivasvate yogaà proktavä n: " I told this philosophy to Vivasvä n." Where is the difficulty to understand? Dharma-kñ etre kuru-kñ etre samavetä yuyutsavaù: [Bg. 1.1] " In the dharma-kñ etre, kuru-kñ etre, two parties willing to fight, they assembled." Where is the difficulty to understand? Why these rascals should interpret in a different way?

(Morning Walk April 11, 1974, Bombay)